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Hi, I have not posted for a while due to not feeling too well, My Health has improved so the posts start again. One of my Oldies in original Case, which is unusual for 200 to 300 Year old Pocket Watches. Most times, because the movements last a long time, the movements can be in a Second or third Case.
Hi, I have a liking for Pocket Watches that have Dublin engraved on them. This Pocket Watch is missing Regulator parts and has a strange Bow that looks like a "D Shackle" that is worn; maybe Silver. I seem to recollect that I have seen this before; probably not original. There are 2 Watch Papers that are interesting: A previous owner "Rev. Mr Sparhawk of West Randolph Crt? Bethal Vt. Dec. 20, 1842. Obviously still going strong for the Reverend Sparhawk. There is another Watch Paper "J Davison, Watch & Clockmaker, Potsdam, (N Y.)".
Here is the Sellers Description: Char Goode Dublin C1690 Silver Pair Case Verge Fusee As-Found. Needs Some Work. Has two watch papers: one for "J. Davison, NY Watch & Clockmaker" plus the name of one of the former owners on the second paper: Rev. Mr. Sparhawk, West Bethel, VT Dec 20 1842" (this date much later than the watches date of manufacture. According to Britten's book " Old Clocks and Watches and their makers, 7th Edition", there was a clock maker by the name of Charles Goode making high quality clocks in 1686....no town is given. The overall layout of the watch movement and pair case are in keeping with the late 1600s.....especially the plate pillars, the fancy scroll on the side of the movement, and the balance cock bridge. The movement is approximately 17 Lignes (38mm). thickness of the movement measures approximately 1"....this is also in keeping with the early date of manufacture. There are no hallmarks on the silver pair case....only the initials "RB". The case does chemically test for silver. Not running: In as-found condition. Needs at least Crystal, fusee chain, a few small plate pins, the regulator dial....maybe others. Train looks OK as does the balance staff. I have sold all my watch tools therefore, I have not gotten into it to determine exactly what is required to restore."
Some early Watchmakers whith explanation of abc etc. George, Richard
1682 c Gould, Christopher δ
Grimes, William
Gardener, John
1683 a Gavelle, James b (alien)
Gould, Abel
1685 a Godfrey, Henry b
Greene, James
1686 Gilltes, Richard
a Goode, Charles b
1687 a Gobert, Peter b (French)
a Giugner, Anthony δ (French)
a Gardiner, John δ (Croydon)
Grizell, John" So Char Goode, was making Watches and Clocks in 1686. An explanation of a,b,c follows. a Attached to a name indicates a certainty of the person having been

a clock-maker by trade.

b
Following a name means that he was admitted a "Brother."

c
Indicates his having been mentioned on his admission as a " Great

Clockmaker."
Those names without any mark were admitted to their freedoms as "Free

Clockmakers."

Many were case-makers, engravers, &c., connected with the trade,


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Samuel Sparhawk, a very interesting and forceful Man.
The Pocket Watch still running in the 1840's. Hi, I have found out that Rev Samuel Sparhawk, 1840s one of the previous owners, was a bit of a "Firebrand" One hot summer day during worship in that house, Rev. Samuel Sparhawk used the text "Thus says the Lord of Hosts, go up to the mountain and build a house for the Lord." Then as the congregation left the house, they were met at the gate and not allowed to pass until they agreed. Richakdson {John Caleh John Nathaniel
Thomas') brother of the preceding, and son of Capt. John and
Rebecca (Moore) Richardson, of Templeton; born there, Aug.
17, 1774; married, in 1800, Abigail Sparhawk, born Dec. 26,
1775, daughter of Rev. Ebenezer and Naomi (Hill) Sparhawk, of
Templeton. Her mother, Naomi, was a second wife ; the first
wife was Abigail, daughter of Rev. David Stearns, of Lunen-
burg ; the second wife Avas a daughter of Rev. Abraham Hill, of
Shutesbury. Mr. Sparhawk, by his first Avife, was the father of
Rev. Samuel Sparhawk, born 1802, minister successively of Pitts-
field and West Randolph, Vt.

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Philip Priestley was kind enough to tell me the Maker of the Case. "The case maker is Richard Blundell of London. I have seen it before on a Banks of Nottingham watch. Pity it does not have date letter etc, but your dating is OK." From my research at the British Museum I find that "Richard Blundell" of London worked from 1690 until 1705.

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Well that is all at the moment. Regards Ray

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There was a Cha(s?) Goode sold recently but I've forgotten where. These are very early and rare.

Should have a champleve dial?

Do you have the Priestly hallmark book?

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Hi Jon I do have a champleve dial but the wrong size; it is a repo; I will leave it as is. Regards Ray

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