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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:31 am Reply with quote
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John Jackson was a silversmith and part time watch
maker out of Liverpool. I was tired of the 7J versions,
found this one broken and had it restored up in NY,NY.


The date is 1820.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:46 am Reply with quote
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I Like it Keith, it has a Snake on the Balance like the Irish Verge I just posted. Regards Ray

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Any idea as to the meaning of a snake?

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Snake
PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:17 pm Reply with quote
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Ray had already told me he was going to post his snake
(serpent). I accidentally jumped the gun, cause my Hemp
manager was knocking on the door about destroying a
small amount of product (in the presence of KDA). About
2 acres of processed hemp, out of 15.

Hard to say on the snake Neil, I have an MI Tobias with
a Buck deer. Snakes wig me out.

Keith R...

Note, I have a few Racks 7-14J. Wathen, Roskell, J Johnson,
Lawrance. 1810 to 1822.

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Only Ray and I talk about this before we strike.

Guy puts up a watch, says lever 1836. It's a lever
about 1817. 44 watchers knew something, but it's
coming to KY.

Yes it's re-cased, but a lever running for about $250
USD. See lower movement pic at esc. wheel.


***Now Jon knows this, but English world it goes Verge,
cylinder, duplex, rack lever, chronometer, lever.

Edit for Ray............check my vision on the esc. wheel.
My cataracts are still there.


Keith R...


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Unusual, no name. Regards ray

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:42 am Reply with quote
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Ray's eye sight is better then mine, not to mention
his lever experience. The unmarked watch I posted
above, is a lever (I suspected after looking hard at
the escape wheel).

So if a lever, and given the shape of the cock, I'd
start with 1814 to 1817 (note, no patent marked on
cock).

This can follow Massey (1814) or a Table roller (1817).
I stated earlier my earliest lever is 1821 (Massey V).
My rack levers run from 1810 to 1822.

So as I await the watch from the UK, I'll keep digging.
As always, thanks to Ray.

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Thanks Paul
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Paul's got me hooked on the period.

This is my 1821 9J lever, Massey V. Note plate signatures.


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MI Tobias 1818 rack, 30 tooth with 15 secs bit.
Everything original.

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